The "Blood Libel" Beat Goes On
Media lies about conservatives aren't working anymore.
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Back when someone, or some group, or possibly extraterrestrials, shot President Kennedy, Democrats were quick to claim that Dallas was a "City of Hate" because of its Republican leanings. The fact that assassin Lee Harvey Oswald was a card-carrying Communist who'd send Republicans to the prison camps first of all, made no difference; the slander against conservatives survives to this day as a generally-accepted "known fact" with no basis in reality but no hope of correction.
The media lies had a palpable political effect: the shower of false blame made conservatives a bit more reluctant to voice their views about the excessive spending of Kennedy's successor Lyndon Johnson, whose social programs started us on the road to financial ruin.
From that day to this, media leftists have learned that any slander against conservatives, no matter how ludicrous, can be made to stick. The New York Times predicted that centrist European parties who have traditionally welcomed Muslim immigration would try to exploit Mr. Breivik's recent massacre in Norway:
The political fallout will be unpredictable in part because Europe is still so varied in its political landscape, with each country’s different history and culture. Norway, for instance, is not a member of the European Union.
That may make it harder for a left-leaning politician to seize the initiative against conservatives the way that President Bill Clinton did after the Oklahoma City bombing, which was carried out by a right-wing extremist. Trying to link mainstream politicians to the beliefs of Anders Behring Breivik, who the authorities in Norway say has taken responsibility for the killings and whose lawyer says is insane, is also risky. [emphasis added]
Blaming conservatism for any crime committed by anyone who can be cast as a conservative has been a popular tactic for fifty years, because for all that time, the mainstream media so dominated debate that no other views could get any traction at all.
Media bias became evident when the political affiliations of the Palestinian activist who shot Robert Kennedy were ignored, and when the media refused to blame the Clinton administration for the attack on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas. Despite their spin having become known, liberals were able to blame conservatives for the Oklahoma City bombing and help President Clinton dominate the dialog.
The fact that the New York Times believes it may be difficult for left-leaning politicians to exploit the massacre to attack conservatives doesn't mean that they won't try. The Wall Street Journal reports:
Europe's anti-immigrant parties, which have done well in a series of national elections in the Netherlands, Scandinavia and other parts of the Continent, use rhetoric very similar to Mr. Breivik's. Those parallels have exposed the movements to accusations that they have fostered a political environment that encourages intolerance that can spill into violence.
"When you repeat these theories over and over again, crazy people get ideas," said Mehmet Koksal, a Belgian-Turkish political analyst.
Mr. Koksal is right, in a way; with the media constantly repeating false and discredited theories that conservatives are violence-prone, crazy people in government office do get evil ideas of repression.
However, conservatives have finally learned the lesson to to just stand there and get beat on. Prominent European conservatives are loudly and forcefully distancing themselves from Mr. Breivik, or more accurately, attempting to shine a glaring spotlight on the vast difference that's already there. Geert Wilders, who leads the anti-immigrant Netherlands Party for Freedom, said, "Mr. Breivik is a psychopath who violently abused the war against Islamization" - hard to argue against that.
The Tide Turns
Can liberals out-shout the truth with the help of the media? The atmosphere seems to have changed since the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.
When a left-wing extremist shot Rep. Giffords, the American media tried to pin the shooting on a "culture of violence" that had been created by conservative politicians who had targeted her for electoral defeat, saying they'd given a crazy person ideas. This attack on conservatives didn't work nearly as well as blaming conservatives for the bombing had; if anything, it backfired, and while all Americans have sympathy for the recovering Rep. Giffords, she isn't some moral icon as her party leaders hoped she'd become.
There are several reasons for this:
- Liberals have lost their media monopoly. There were only three TV networks in 1995 and they transmitted a reliably liberal line. Now Fox News has the largest market share and the Internet and talk radio provide many channels for conservative views.
- Conservatives have found more courageous voices. In recent decades, conservatives rolled over and died when accused of racism or of inciting violence. This time, conservatives such as Sarah Palin struck back, accurately accusing liberals of committing "blood libel" - a false claim that certain groups are collectively responsible for murders which may not even have been committed by individual members of the group.
- Liberalism simply hasn't worked. The more the left praised diversity, multiculturalism, and socialism, the more ordinary citizens find that it doesn't work in real life. This has led many citizens to distrust their leaders. The more the media support leaders whom people know are liars and thieves, the less the media themselves are trusted.
- President Obama's Democrats triggered a revolt. For years, the constant onslaught of liberal press made conservatives think they really were out of the mainstream. When Mr. Obama borrowed and spent such unimaginable amounts of our money, however, individual closet conservatives could no longer control their anger. When they exploded in righteous fury, they found to their surprise that they were part of a vastly larger group than they had imagined - what's now become the Tea Party. There were so many of them that the Democrats lost control of the House of Representatives, almost despite the efforts of the mainstream Republican leadership.
We may be seeing a similar decline of liberal power in Europe. Welfare-state liberals are inherently pro-immigrant because so many immigrants go on welfare. They can be counted on to vote for politicians who offer "Vote for Me - Free Lunch (VMFL)."
For decades, the great and the good have trumpeted the joys of diversity and the strengths of multiculturalism. As in the United States, Europeans who were concerned about the influx of Muslim barbarians, impoverished Africans, and other non-European groups were made to feel like bigots or worse.
Recently, however, the problems caused by unassimilated immigrants have become so visible that voters are complaining regardless of what their rulers think of them. In response to voters' sentiments, some European leaders are publicly admitting the obvious: that multiculturalism simply hasn't worked. As the New York Times put it,
On the big picture, Europe’s cultural conservatives are right: Mass immigration really has left the Continent more divided than enriched, Islam and liberal democracy have not yet proven natural bedfellows and the dream of a postnational, postpatriotic European Union governed by a benevolent ruling elite looks more like a folly every day. [emphasis added]
As voters feel greater and greater pressure on their way of life, they're rebelling against supporting these particular beneficiaries of the welfare state. Anti-immigrant parties have gained ground in England, Italy, and in Holland.
In France, Mr. Le Pen, the most rabid anti-immigrant politician on the continent, made it to the second round of voting for the French presidency. His daughter and successor as head of his National Front party recently polled ahead of current President Sarkozy.
No matter how the great and the good manage to insulate themselves from the cultural unpleasantness caused by so much immigration, ordinary voters feel it keenly. It will be interesting to see whether European liberals will be able to use Mr. Breivik's murderous actions to hold back the anti-immigrant tide. The mainstream media will help them as much as possible, but as in the United States, they may spend their last few scraps of popular confidence in order to do so.
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What does Chinese history have to teach America that Joe Biden doesn't know?
Breivik gave European media a talking point on a golden plate. They will be using that talking point for a long long time to come, and it will work.
Well, here is a perfect example why there will be blood in the streets.
When anyone can believe a total load of frogspit such as this article- "Blood Libel," -that means that not one of their feet are on the planet - gone gone gone and off to total lunacy.
There is no other way to address this than a super dose of thorium - there is no reasoning with such madness as this—it's barking moonbat crazy.
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"Breivik gave European media a talking point on a golden plate."~Ifon
Absolutely right Ifon. Too bad you can't see the obvious machinations behind all of this strategy of tension, but take everythng at face value.
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"Too bad you can't see the obvious machinations behind all of this strategy of tension"
Such as?
Will O.,
A couple of points to ponder, no response necessary.
One, the Oklahoma City bombing carried out by Timothy McVeigh was not a right wing extremist, he was left wing. Time and again you will not that the left uses the power of force to get what they want, the right is rather serene in comparison. They psychopath in Norway is a lefty. It is this use of words that the left beats the right with albeit lies.
Two, immigrants are great for a country when they are not given anything. The reason immigrants of 100 years ago were successful was because they had to work for their bread. The muslims immigrating into Europe would be more like the Italians, Irish, English, Dutch, etc. that came here. They came for the opportunity. When this changed to handouts the work ethic went out the window. Immigrants can make you better or worse, it depends on the government policy which in and of itself should never enter into the equation.
bassboat, that is well said, but I would add one caveat to your second point...
It depends, also, if the immigrants are willing to leave behind their old culture.
There is a deep and abiding problem in the US right now with Mexican immigrants having absolutely no desire or intention to become American. They fly their own flag, celebrate their own holidays, speak their own language and have no intention of changing any of it.
Even if they have to work for bread, there must also be a sense of assimilation. Many Middle Eastern/Muslim immigrants have the same problem.
Ifon,
I could have gone into greater detail but didn't. On the Mexicans, there was a net outflow of Mexicans last year because of lack of job opportunity. Take away welfare and free benefits and most of the rest will leave, the ones who remain will make us stronger.
"Take away welfare and free benefits and most of the rest will leave"
I don't believe that most illegals are able to collect welfare or many free benefits. They certainly can use emergency rooms and skip out on the bill, but I've also read reports that show that illegals end up paying more than they take in the way of public benefits. This is because most illegals use fake Tax IDs which means that their employer is withholding tax and FICA from their check but they never get it back. That withholding can be as much as 10-15% for someone making minimum wage. Since they don't file tax returns at the end of the year, they also don't get any tax rebates/credits back either. Some illegals have managed to figure out how to get tax rebates/credits; Scragged wrote an article on this awhile back.
You are of course correct on jobs. Take those away and they have no reason for staying.
"Too bad you can't see the obvious machinations behind all of this strategy of tension"
Such as?"~Ifon
Such as the obvious fact that this was another false flag covert operation.
This "Lone Nut Gunman" drivle has a MO and profile that is as obvious as the neon of Vegas - if you have more than half a brain. Since you only use the right half {figuratively speaking} you can't make out the whole picture.
You should try stereo vision sometime - everything is perfectly clear from that perspective.
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"This "Lone Nut Gunman" drivle has a MO and profile that is as obvious as the neon of Vegas - if you have more than half a brain"
The only groups claiming any credit for the attack were ruled out as Muslims nuts that wanted to build terror credibility.
There have been no reports given of anyone helping him, other than speculation that killing 80 people on his own would be difficult and a third party account that there may have been another man (which has since been ruled out).
Do you have any evidence at all that he wasn't alone or that there was a larger group supporting him or that it was a frame job? Anything?
Nice attempt at the typical drive-by ad hominem to discredit attack, ww! But we are awake now, and know who the real wingbats are, so crawl back into your lefty loon bin! And more typically, you show your bias and elitism; you are saying there will be blood in the streets? Are you advocating violence, ww? The Tea Parties have been paragons of peaceful demonstrations of the disapproval that we have for the political policies that our leaders are pursuing. And of course, we stupid neanderthal conservatives can't see the "true" machinations that are taking place, yet you can? How about the mountain of evidence of the last two plus years that your Dear Leader is doing all he can to bring our capitalist system down so he can get more devoted followers onto the government teat; has divided us as a nation along both race and class warfare talking points; and is spending us into a black hole of debt that will ruin the future of our children and grandchildren? Since you are obviously privy to understanding the true nature of dark machinations, have you ever heard of the Cloward-Piven strategy? What does this suggest to your superior intellect?
I will leave you with a quote, though doubtful that it will penetrate to your transcendental level of understanding, and you can froth away; as I'm sure that Tolstoy had people like you in mind when he wrote: "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives."
"Lee Harvey Oswald was a card-carrying Communist" – Oswald, and Intel agent who had penetrated the USSR, and was on assignment to infiltrate the fanatical anti-Castro Cuban community.
"the political affiliations of the Palestinian activist"- Sirhan Sirhan who worked at the horse ranch of Desiderio Alberto Arnaz, a fanatical anti-Castro Cuban, and part of the cabal involved in the JFK hit. Sirhan who was grandfathered into the US by string pulling by Richard Nixon.
Oswald, Sirhan, McVeigh, Breivik, and many others are simply 'Legends' created by Western Intelligence. Their entire 'Profile' a fictional creation for popular consumption.
Analyzing the events involving these fictional characters are meant to cover for, using the mainstream interpretation of the events based on such mythology, accepting this as reality, and then postulating from that point can only lead to a larger and more insane fictional view of “reality.”
And that is what this article is, a compounded blend of fiction and reality spun into complete lunacy.
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"But we are awake now, and know who the real wingbats are, so crawl back into your lefty loon bin!"~MOdawg
The Controllers are neither Left or Right, Conservative nor Liberal, the Controllers are the ones who taught you to believe that there is a left and right and told you to join one team or the other.
They designed the game, and own both teams. They finance the arena and all the players, and write all the rules. And as long as you believe in this phony staged nonsense you will remain one of the controlled.
"Awake?" You are as deep in trance as a plastic manikin
~ww
Yup, didn't make a dent! Good luck, ww, and say hello to the dixie dance kings for me!
"Do you have any evidence...?"~Ifon
Look Ifon, I have had it with giving you evidence that you take and use as toilet paper.
Using reason with you and your choir of true believers is futile.
"..a third party account that there may have been another man (which has since been ruled out)."
No not "third party" accounts, accounts of several witnesses who were there and survived the killings.
"Ruled out" by who? The press accounts....PR wankdoodle.
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I'm not asking for evidence that there was another person accompanying Breivik. I, myself, believe he may have had someone helping him, though there is no evidence of even that.
I'm asking for you to offer even one scrap of proof that this is "clearly" the work of some larger group or secret cobol.
Please provide one credible piece of evidence that the NWO or any other secret cobol was behind Breivik.
@lfon
The problem is that Willy Wonka doesn't understand what the word "evidence" means. He think that saying "it's totally the same MO!!" is evidence. Thank goodness he never tried to be a lawyer.
"your Dear Leader"~MOdawg
My leader MOdawg??
See, you don't even know what you are arguing against, all you know is this Left/Right charade, so anyone you disagree with MUST BE a "Lefty".
I had Obama tagged as a fraud from the first time I saw him speak with his smooth neurolinguistic trance inducing hypnotripe.
Obama is no less and agent of Wall Street and the Banking Cabal than any other poser in the ciminal syndicate in DC.
You are being gamed son.
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OK, Willy, here's one for you:
Can you name a single person in public life who, in your view, IS NOT a fraud - i.e. who is genuinely sincere in their beliefs as expressed, and who genuinely has the best interests of the American people at heart?
Anybody? At all?
Addressing this to both Tinkletoes Twibi and Ifon...hell you can read it too Modoggie,
Circumstantial evidence has been enough to send people to the electric chair.
The circumstantial evidence surrounding the Norway event is overwhelming, the "political" fallout is one very huge indicator.
The atmosphere in Norway was one that is very dangerous for the state of Israel. The are voting for Palestinian statehood. The have official boycotts against Israel.
As well they have backed out of the illegal NATO attacks on Libya.
A sophisticate political analysis of this situation says: The timing of this event, and the ensuing political atmosphere is too 'coincidental' and perfect to rule out the great probability that the event was driven by covert operators killing two birds with one stone – Palestinian statehood and pressure from the Gladio elements running NATO.
Do I expect any of you here to get this? Hardly. But this is a public forum, and perhaps other readers who aren't so lost in the L/R paradigm may benefit.
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"Can you name a single person in public life who, in your view, IS NOT a fraud - i.e. who is genuinely sincere in their beliefs as expressed, and who genuinely has the best interests of the American people at heart?
Anybody? At all?"~Patience
Certainly many people in public life, who aren't intimately connect insiders, are sincere in their beliefs. But they are no less conditioned by the paradigm than the general public.
It is the SYSTEM that must be analyzed and deconstructed.
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Ok then. To summarize, your entire case, that Israel is "paying back" Norway for supporting the Palestinians, is based solely on your opinion that Norway's political opinions are dangerous for Israel.
Setting aside the lack of evidence for a minute, these puzzling questions arise:
a) Since Isreal didn't take credit for the Breivik attack, Norway won't even know that they did it. Doesn't that defeat the purpose? If Isreal is trying to make a point, don't they need to somehow let Norway know that it was them?
b) Norway has not yet voted for anything supporting Palestine, only made speeches. If they did find out that Israel was behind the Breivik attack, won't this make them LESS likely to support Israel?
c) Norway is a tiny country. They rank 118 in population with less than 5 million people. Why would Israel murder 80 citizens of a country that was THAT small just because they didn't like the political atmosphere? Who cares what Norway thinks?
d) Norway's political leadership, while not strongly pro-Israel, is certainly not as anti-Isreal as say Libya, Somalia or Eritrea - all of which are larger countries than Norway and much easier to infiltrate (Norway is a very technological advanced country). Why not target one of those countries instead?
Can you answer these questions?
Forget the evidence - we know you have non. Just try to answer these questions.
"Thank goodness he never tried to be a lawyer."~Tinky
Interesting you should say that, I have had several trial lawyers compliment me on my argumentive abilities, and said I missed my calling.
Oh...now you need "evidence" of that as well...ha ha ha.
I don't care what you believe Twibi, just have a rooti' tootin' good time, while the good times last.
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@Willy
I love that you just used the word "argumentative" to describe yourself.
Definition of Argumentative: "Given to expressing divergent or opposite views. An argumentative child" - Princeton Dictionary
Your lawyer friends were certainly correct.
"a) Since Isreal didn't take credit for the Breivik attack, Norway won't even know that they did it."~Ifon
Surely you jest. That very day the prime minister spoke and said they wouldn't be "bombed into submission." they know perfectly well who was behind the attacks. They have US opperators infiltrating their police forces and it is common knowledge.
"b) Norway has not yet voted for anything supporting Palestine, only made speeches. If they did find out that Israel was behind the Breivik attack, won't this make them LESS likely to support Israel?"
Absolutely. But this will depend on what other pressures and threats are laid on them in the backchannels.
"c) Norway is a tiny country. They rank 118 in population with less than 5 million people. Why would Israel murder 80 citizens of a country that was THAT small just because they didn't like the political atmosphere? Who cares what Norway thinks?"
Because they do have a vote in the UN, and anyone breaking from the ranks of Israeli overlording is a dangerous precedent, to be brief about it.
"d) Norway's political leadership, while not strongly pro-Israel, is certainly not as anti-Isreal..."
Norway is part of the European commmunity, and the other nations you mention are not, and the oppinions of those nations are expected.
Also, it you think deeper on this you should realize that any who are not rabidly pro-Israel, such as DC is in effect "Anti-Israel" according to them.
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"argumentative"~Twibi
Argumentation is what lawyers do.
That is what takes in debate.
You are in a debate right now. You are arguing.
And you are using a jejune argument by describing it as merely, An argumentative child," as your choice of definition.
And that can also be described as hypocrisy, albeit subconscious.
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Does history have some revealing, uncomfortable truths that current and later generations may use to expose autocratic, non-benevolent leadership tendencies?
Rewrite it. Move or remove the goalposts. [Orwell's Memory Hole]
Plus - spin current events to match this synthetic telling of 'history'
Plus - constant entertainments and distractions, ie, Bread and Circuses.
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One last comment on Norway. If you want physical evidence, it is in the aftermath - the result of the bomb blast.
Just like the Murrah Bldg the blast is outward, blowing the windows and debris out into the street. The photographic evidence makes this very clear.
So more than anything, the bombing is going to be the key.
The best analog for that is the OK Bomb, and General Partin's analysis of the explosion.
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"Surely you jest. That very day the prime minister spoke and said they wouldn't be "bombed into submission." they know perfectly well who was behind the attacks. They have US opperators infiltrating their police forces and it is common knowledge"
Do you have proof that US operators are infiltrating their police forces?
The Norway PM made the bomb comment because of the car bomb in Oslo. Why are you assuming that "into submission" was aimed at Israel and not at Breivik?
"Because they do have a vote in the UN, and anyone breaking from the ranks of Israeli overlording is a dangerous precedent, to be brief about it."
There are hundreds of countries in the UN, many of whom have openly ridiculed Israel.
The fact that some Norwegian politicians (not all, but a few) have openly supported a Palestinian state does not mean that they are anti-Israel. French politicians have made the same overtures.
The one country that Israel cannot lose the support of, at all cost, is the United States. And they know that. American intelligence programs are the best in the world. If anyone was to find out that Israel was behind Breivik, it would be the United States. Such an act would alienate Israel from the American people, and they know it.
Your macro view of Israel is severely misguided. Israel's military strikes and covert operations have always been in response to someone attacking them first. To not see this, is to completely disregard the last 30 years of history, or to always take the word of anti-Israel bias without reading multiple sources.
"One last comment on Norway. If you want physical evidence, it is in the aftermath - the result of the bomb blast. Just like the Murrah Bldg the blast is outward, blowing the windows and debris out into the street. The photographic evidence makes this very clear."
Again, where's the logical connection between this piece of information and the assertion that some secret cobol or NWO or Israel is behind the attack?
So what if the bomb blew outward?
Lone wolf terrorists can't build bombs that do that?
"Do you have proof that US operators are infiltrating their police forces?"~Ifon
Yes.
"So what if the bomb blew outward?
Lone wolf terrorists can't build bombs that do that?"
Because the official story is that it was a truck bomb.
"Your macro view of Israel is severely misguided. Israel's military strikes and covert operations have always been in response to someone attacking them first. To not see this, is to completely disregard the last 30 years of history, or to always take the word of anti-Israel bias without reading multiple sources."
Absolute and complete nonsense. Mossad is the premier expert in false flag ops. You would realize this if you weren't conditioned by mainstream propaganda.
Young people interviewed by VG describe an additional perpetrator – who was not wearing a police uniform. The person was following them around was 180 centimeters tall, had thick dark hair and a Nordic appearance. He had a pistol in his right hand and a rifle on his back. – I believe that there were two people who were shooting, says Alexander Stavdal (23)…
Doesn't fit the 'Lone Gunman' legend, so this is dropped from further reporting.
"The Norway PM made the bomb comment because of the car bomb in Oslo. Why are you assuming that "into submission" was aimed at Israel and not at Breivik?"~Ifon
Because the Norway PM knows better than I about the US anti-terror groups that had infiltrated the police.
It has also come to light that a special police unit had been conducting a drill or exercise in downtown Oslo which involved the detonation of bombs – exactly what caused the bloodshed a few hundred meters away little more than 48 hours later. Further research reveals that United States intelligence agencies had been conducting a large-scale program of recruiting retired Norwegian police officers with the alleged purpose of conducting surveillance inside the country. This program, known as SIMAS Surveillance Detection Units, provided a perfect vehicle for the penetration and subversion of the Norwegian police by NATO.
Surveillance Detection Units (SDU) are organizations belonging to the US Government that have conducted secret surveillance that potentially broke national laws in various European countries. The Norwegian broadcaster TV 2 first publicly reported the existence of the network of SDUs, on 3 November 2010.
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Surveillance Detection Units (SDU) are organizations belonging to the US Government that have conducted secret surveillance that potentially broke national laws in various European countries. The Norwegian broadcaster TV 2 first publicly reported the existence of the network of SDUs, on 3 November 2010
In the year 2000, at least 22 United States (US) embassies and consulates around the world operated the US Department of State's "worldwide surveillance detection program", which "emphasized quasi-covert operations and information gathering." The SDU operates under the authority of the RSO (Regional Security Officer) and stores the collected data in a system called Security Incident Management Analysis System (SIMAS)
Since 2000, former leaders of the police force of Oslo, the Norwegian Police Security Service, and the Kripos have been recruited to conduct secret surveillance of Norwegians in order to prevent terrorist attacks on the U.S. Embassy and the residence of the U.S. Ambassador. The unit consists of 15-20 people that were based on the sixth floor of the building Handelsbygningen at Solli Plass, several hundred metres from the embassy at Henrik Ibsens Gate, until the November 2010 controversy.Its leader, Olaf Johansen, was a former anti-terrorism chief before being recruited for the American unit. Knut Storberget, Norway's Minister of Justice, initially claimed the government was unaware of the program and that there would be an investigation, but later presented updated information to the Norwegian parliament after the U.S. Embassy stated that notification had been made.
If you had any real interest in these matters you could do your own research, rather than making your continuous squawking blather at me.
You got a web browser? Use it.
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Willy, didn't Mossad get caught offing some guy in Dubai? Or was it Qatar? It was supposed to look like natural causes, but somebody got suspicious, did a careful autopsy, and outed them. Did anyone ever get caught? Or even identified?
FredF,
Mossad has been 'caught' countless times, it's just "not news thats fit to print."
Close to a hundred Mossad agents were actually picked up after 9/11, all were released by Chertoff within a month.
The infamous Abu Nidal of Klinghoffer murder fame was finally identified as a deep Mossad agent.
The intrigue is so twisted with double, triple, quadriple identities it become a churn of spinning wheel biz to keep up with.
Shortly before the Norway thing they were nabbed in New Zealand in another 'passport' collection scheme. A Mossad agent happened to get killed in a landslide during an earthquake - He had five sets of New Zealand IDs on him. His four compatriots were flown out of the country on the Israeli ambassador [to NZ] on an IDF transport jet.
As far as I recall, you are speaking to the guy killed by syringe in the hotel, and I think that was Qatar. A solution that causes heart attack.
There were also motorbike attacks where they attach a magnetic bomb to cars as they pass in traffic.
There is too much of this to keep up with.
We are now beginning to see the veil of false democracy lift, and the tyranny that lies beneath is showing its true face.
False Flag Terror: The War on Terror that began with a 9/11 false flag event has been the victim of blowback. The level of coverup on 9/11, and the extraordinary amount of research that has gone into demolishing the official version, has woken up nearly the entire globe to the concept of government-run false flag terror. Sadly, U.S. history is replete with many other examples of lies that have led to war. Governments the world over have staged false flag events throughout history as a pretext to grab more power -- it is the historical rule, rather than the exception. The world is now awake enough to correctly presume that major terrorist events will be the work of intelligence agencies and government sponsorship, rather than lone nuts and loosely organized groups of "extremists." Governments are responsible for over 200 million deaths in the 20th century -- perhaps approaching 400 million when combat-related deaths in various wars, civil wars, and rebellions are added to this number -- the greatest mass murderer in human history. The mainstream media was recently forced to confront a false flag setup program when the ATF was caught red-handed supplying guns to Mexican gangs which they knew would be used to kill Americans as part of the wider War on Drugs. Even though the operation has been admitted to, the event is already being used by the Obama administration to intimidate gun dealers to report on buyers, outside the rule of law.
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"To not see this, is to completely disregard the last 30 years of history, or to always take the word of anti-Israel bias without reading multiple sources."~Ifon
It is important to address this assertion more directly.
"Multiple sources" in this case unually means encountering and referencing the Hasbara network. And in mainstream US press and media this means the Hasbara Matrix.
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Willy, I asked if you had evidence that US police have infiltrated Norway police and you said "yes".
What is it?
You continue to not provide anything tangible. You rely on saying things like:
"Because the Norway PM knows better than I about the US anti-terror groups that had infiltrated the police."
And then you run off with paragraph after paragraph about secret detection units that were behind it.
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?
You say that I should use my own web browser - I've done that. I've spent far longer than I ever should have Googling and reading the assertions that your like-minded friends say. And you know that? They don't appear to have any evidence either. They say the same things:
"Everyone knows that Israel needs keep their support in line!"
"Use your browser and look around, man!"
"It's right there before your eyes!"
"Dude, lone wolf gunman don't exist!"
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?
A few comments back, Twibi made a snide remark that you didn't know what the word "evidence" means. I'm beginning to think he's right. It's not that you're being purposefully dishonest or coy. It's just that (1) you are an extremely gullible person and (2) you think that a bunch of forum commenters suggesting plot twists equals evidence. The more nose from those forums, the more "evidence" there is.
Evidence is about facts and the word of credible people. And example of credible people:
a) police and public officials who are directly involved and responsible for the investigation
b) mainstream news reporters on the ground collecting information and interviewing people
c) witnesses, unaffiliated with any agenda, that were there and have first-hand testimony
Look back at your comments... The further along you go here, inserting new layers, the more your story is twisting and changing.
At first, you said Israel was behind it. Now, it appears you think that the US was really behind it and provided the cover, help and expertise - on behalf of Israel of course.
@lfon, you are beginning to see the real motive of Willy Wonka. You said yourself that you spent way more time than you should have looking for evidence of his fantastic assertions, as he provides wild accusations without factual proof. He is, simply, a distraction from what we should really be focusing on. As he said he had Obama nailed from the beginning, (who of us here didn't?), and not to pat myself on the back too much, but I had him nailed from his first posting. He uses big words and high minded, yet empty arguments to obfuscate and distract from our real purpose here. Remind you of anyone? Like his Dear Leader? He purports to try and illuminate us lowly types as he denigrates us at the same time, yet he offers no real substance. A perfect counterpoint is the newest post from Plutarch. ww will continue to froth at the mouth and attempt to distract, a learned fool, but one with a purpose nonetheless. Ignore him and stay focused on what matters, my friend!
@MOdawg:
The Bible calls that "ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth".
2 Timothy 3:7
Amen, brother! Keep fighting the good fight and don't let the elitist troglodytes drag you off into the weeds with them! If you aren't already involved, I highly recommend finding a tea party group in your area! Regards.
I'm not going to demean you in any way but sometimes the truth is hard to take and, I'm going to tell you the truth, maybe in a way which you've never heard it expressed withot a scramin argument. I'm not going to yell but please, for your own sake and the sake of your family, just read this and think without any anger.
Can you hear yourself? Have you had an open dialogue with any one out of your particular circle of 'friends'in the last fifty years?
This is 2011. Four year old children have an opinion on the death, destruction and thievery perpetrated, not just by conservatives but every swingin dick who stood by and let it happen.
Tell me, if liberals have all of the power then how come conservatives control the majority of the money,, most 'republicans' have no money, this is why I'm not a republican. I'm not rich, they don't have ANY interest in someone like except to suck me in to voting for thrm.
By the way, people like you who cater to these criminals,are going to suffer the most when they turn our nation into a third world country, very soon there will be no dollar. It's worth about three cents now,, what do you think happens when it hits '0'.
Have you ever seen a great portion of Detroit and suburbs? Look it up. That's what's left of ameriKa after thes ass holes increase cuts in government, a crippling tactic reducing the government to an entity which will not even have the power to regulate them. Have you seen whatreagan's de-regulation did to our economy? Do you think presidents don't pass bills that won't take effect until they're out of office, then the next president gets blamed for the horrible legistlation
I feel sorry forr you actually. If you're not a multi millionaire then you're workin for the enemy. Have you ever truly heard the words these people speak? John Boehner said, on your TV; We are NOT going to allow this president to raise taxes on the American people! Do you understand 'who' the amerikan people are? Corporations are cosidered "people" in the eyes of the law. So when they say that they dont want to raise taxes on the ammerikan people they mean themselves, the 2% of the richest "people" who control about 90% of the wealth. They are the only people extremist conservatives care about. How much do you earn a year? Do you really think that that anyone but a sociopath would raise taxes on the 90% poorest people. There is NO plan anywhere that would raise taxes on anyone making $250,000 a year. Anywhere!
"They're gonna take away our guns. Bullshit, all anyone wants to do is try to keep someone who is in a vulnerable person from making a horrible mistake which could wrek many lives. So what, a three day waitin period, what's your rush? Expectin society to collapse? Now, there your right. Society will fall when the dow closes forever, as do the banks which hold your money which will be worthless when it all comes down, and brother, a hard rain's a gonna come. If you bother to read this come to "coto", it's another blog but not like one you'e seen.just find a post which intersts you and go in. No one know's you're there,, just read. Then if you want to ask question, sign in and ask. No one bites, except maybe boomer, but he's harmless. My name's Peter,, hope to hear from you.
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By the way Willy, I am by no means a liberal. I follow no one. I make my choices logically and informed. I came here and read your article without prejudice.
I have more weapons at my fingertips at any time than most people own. I tell you this because I've been watching and paying a lot of attention for over 45 years and that's not my age. The left and right illusion is just that. There is no left or right,, they're all playing a big game.
Good cop/bad cop. It's all a show. All of DC is being run by what Eisenhour warned/called the corporate-military complex. U-tube his 1959 farewell address, then go to Kennedy's 1961, warning Americans of plans of secret societies infiltrating the government. Eisenhour, by the way was a conservative, an ex military general,, hardly your left winger.
Just think, Brother.
I get nothing if you open your eyes and stop listening to local media propoganda. Not even a friggin toaster.